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Hi all, Hope all is having a nice holiday. My family just left to be with hubby's side of the family and I chose to stay home with my "girls."

Kylie is now 12 days post op. She will have her stitches out tomorrow. I still haven't decided IF I want to go back to "our" vet...after his staff put me off for a day WHEN I did everything right for my baby....IF that 24 hours makes a difference in her recovery....well....I just don't know.....

Kylie is doing well. She's still "down" of course. She pee'd and pooped outside today!!!!I'm not sure if I should help support her or not? She seemed to be straining a bit. I just hope she's good until tomorrow...because I'm one tired Mom. Ky and I have been up since 4am. I heard her in the crate and I know she gets scared when she has to "go" .... she starts shaking and panting....so I was hoping to encourage her to "go" on the pee pad....but because my poor baby was abused peeing in the house is too upsetting for her. Someone REALLY did a number on her...

We are so lucky to have found each other. I know I was meant to find Kylie...(got her through the Northern California Beagle Rescue...)

Anyway...I'm all alone...except for my snoring beagles...and I thought I'd check in and give an update.

Thanks for the help and Happy and Healthy New Year.

Renee<sorry for the length>
 

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Hi Renee!

I'm glad you are looking forward to a nice, quiet night with your beagles and their snoring.

Thank God that Kylie has you. So many, many other people would have given up on her. Not only with her medical condition but with her emotional baggage due to who knows what.

Not many people have the chance to experience that kind of deep, unconditional bond with an animal. I can say from first hand experience that it is an incredible feeling.

I don't remember what happened with the vet. When did they put you all off?

Please kiss Kylie for Henry and I.
 

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I'm glad to hear that Kylie seems to be improving. If I were you, I'd find another vet. Talk to some friends with dogs or even the rescue you adopted her from for some recommendations. I went back to re-read your original post about Kylie and if they made you wait a whole day to get her in after a back injury...well, I'd be concerned. My vet would have had her in ASAP. That's just my 2 cents. I can be very opinionated when it comes to the health and well being of my baby girl though.

As for that bond...isn't it the best thing in the world? Last night, Jersey came over to me to get my attention. I gave her some lovin' but she kept tapping me and going towards the couch. I went over and sat on the couch with her and she cuddled up on my lap. She just wanted to be with her mommy. :heart:
 

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Re-read the original post about Kylie and what happened.

I agree with Jen...you should find another vet.

For the possible good of that vet's future patient, I would send a letter to the vet and explain why you will no longer be coming there.

That vet needs to know that somebody incorrectly triaged Kylie by phone ...he needs to look into that and deal with it if it is a staff problem.

Perhaps UCD can recommend somebody in your area who happens to be well read on what disc problems as well as general veterinary medicine.

How is she today?
 

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Good Morning,

Thanks for the replys. We had a good night. I got to sleep! I just called our vet. I called to say I wanted to SEE him and not have a tech take out the stitches. HE will then hear from me about the breach in their assesment when I did call them following the emergency room doctors' instructions and THEY didn't take us...

I will change vets. I just will see him this last time to have "THAT" talk. It's really too bad this happened wiht the Vet too because HE is a GREAT vet and was HIGHLY recommended....his staff just really MESSED up.

Anyway I have the appointment with him. I will check back later today and let you know how it went.

Kylie hasn't pee'd or pooped since yesterday morning...

<sigh>
Thanks again for your support.
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Hi Renee,

It's clear that you have a handle on how to approach the situation with the vet.

Has Kylie been eating and drinking?

Please let us know how it all goes.

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Certainly hope Kylie continues to improve each day......sounds like she has a caring family to love her. :heart:
 

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Renee: I give you a lot of credit for deciding to talk to the vet in person. I have found good vets in clinics that have terrible support staff and I don't stick around. I figure that, if the staff is uncaring or unprofessional to me, they will not treat my dog appropriately either. Please do let us know how your vet trip goes.
I am glad to hear that Kylie is on the mend - am sure there will be ups and downs -- recovery from a serious surgery is rarely in a straight positive direction. Gentle hugs to Kylie!
 

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Glad to know Kylie is getting better with her back injury. For a dog with a baggage like her, she is so lucky to have you :angel: . Let's hope that the New Year will bring more and more happiness to you all.

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Renee,

Its good to hear that Kylie is going on her own. That is a good sign. That fact that she is able to walk so soon after surgery is also good. Just keep her still and calm. Let nature take its course.

As for the vet, since you are changing vets, it is right to let the old one know why. He may have a few words for his staff.

Keep us up on Kylie's progress.
 

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Hi everyone,

Thank you for all the advise and support. We went to the vet and Ky had her stitches removed. I called to make sure I had an appointment WITH the vet. Hubby and I arrived and a tech says okay I will take Kylie in the back now to have her stitches out. I said, I want the doctor to take her stiches out AND I want to speak with him. She said he was taking the stitches out AND she would call us into a room when done to speak with vet.
Then the vet appears with Kylie in his arms in the lobby. He sat down and wanted to talk right there. I think he wanted his staff to hear incase he needed a witness??? Who knows why he didn't take us to an exam room. I explain to him my fears about the lack of comunication with his staff.
I told him I called THREE times. He kept defending himself saying that when I had called I said that I had read on the internet about another condition that I thought it was. I said, "I am NOT a vet" Then he said I refused xrays at the emergency room which is not exactly true....the ER vet said that she thought taking the conservative approach of rest and Rimadyl and to call my vet if she got worse, which she did and which I did. She WALKED out of the ER!
Anyway....long story short he assured me that Kylie will be the same dog that she was. I said I was concerned about the 24 hour CRITIAL time. Again he got defensive saying that I didn't express her condition. THREE phone calls. I THINK I expressed my feelings He lost 2 patients. He didn't charge anything to remove the stitches.
On another subject....we go from having a good day and then having a bad day. Yesterday was not good. Kylie was mopey all day. Didn't want breakfast until hours later and didn't drink hardly any water. She never pooped OR pee'd yesterday...
Hopefully today will be better. I will put a lot of broth in her kibble this morning so she gets fluids and I will call UCD IF we have the same sort of day.
Thanks again for helping me.
Sorry if I don't get back to you as fast as I want. It's hard taking care of a hurt baby.
Renee
 

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Sounds like you did the right thing. The vet will defend his staff, thats standard practice unless something obviously wrong occurred.

Do find a vet soon and have all their records transferred ASAP.

You know we are here for you when you need us.
 

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I hope Kylie has a better day today. It is difficult caring for our babies 'cause they can't tell us where they hurt. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif I applaud you for talking with the vet. You were more courageous than I was when I quit going to one of my (human) doctors because of his staff. :grr: Instead of talking to him, I just assumed he'd defend his people. That was a copout on my part. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/shocked.gif
 

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It is so wonderful that Kylie is beginning doing better. I agree with you, letting her use the pee pad may not be such a kind thing if it traumatises her. After all that, she deserves to feel good about herself. She is so lucky to have such a dedicated Mom.

Pleasee, continue giving us some updates. In the mean time, we will keep her in our prayers
 

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If you have been reading this thread (and I appreciate all the help) this morning I said she hadn't poop and isn't taking water...

I emailed UC Davis because it's been many more hours since water intake or poop and within an hour I received a call back from one of her surgeons.

She's also been real lathargic today and unhappy....depressed I'm sure. My daughter and I are trying to coax her out of the crate and she won't even come out....

The doctor said that she wasn't that concerned about not pooping for awhile. She said if it's over 5 days then it's not good. She doesn't know why she's lathargic at this point. (14 days post-op).... I told her about her choking a bit after she drinks...(I had called about that about 7 days post op and they said she probably had a sore throat from being intubated)and the doctor felt it was late for that to still be going on.
She seemed conerned and said that I should call my regular vet (hmmmm don't really have one yet) and she said I could call back anytime.

My daughter is getting their dinner ready and she's perked up ready for it to be brought to her..
Well no PROBLEM with appetite. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif My daughter put a lot of broth in it. In fact she's holding her ears for her so she doesn't get them wet...

LOL...hopefully happiness and poop to follow.

Thanks again,
Renee<trying to figure out how to post a picture>

 

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Hi all,

I still need help. Kylie has now seemed to be getting worse instead of better. I already have an email into UC Davis.

She had been able to walk wobbily. Two days ago she jumped up on the bed while hubby turned his back for ONE second. I don't know if she hurt herself or not. She didn't cry out.

Now she seems to not want to walk. She is holding her front leg up sometimes. That is the one that had the worst pain reaction when the neuro examined her originally before surgery.

She has had some peeing and pooping in the crate but she always stood up right away to get OUT of the urine....yesterday she pee'd while lying down and I only new because I saw her licking herself....We got her out and cleaned up.

My concern is why is she getting worse? Is it just a bad day. I will see what today brings as it's still early. She ate her food with homemade chicken soup happily and now she's snoring right next to me in that LOUD beagle snore.

Thanks for any help. I'm waiting to hear from the doctor to see if they want a recheck.

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Due to the seriousness of the surgery, and the worry I hear in your post....perhaps a phone call would be best. Is there an emergency number to call to ease your mind?

Keeping you in thoughts and prayers.....
 

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I think the best would be for her to be seen by a vet without delay. The behaviour you described could be cause by some serious ailement and it is probably better to rule them out right away.

Let us know what happens.
 

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Oh my, do I ever feel for you. I hope Kylie has seen a new vet. I wouldn't hesitate. My Ladybug had the same type of injury. Did the vet have you support Kylie in any way when going out? Ours had us put Ladybug in a sling. It took about 3 weeks for Ladybug to stand properly and we were doing physical therapy every day (still are). yes, they do get depressed because of all the cage time but I slept with Ladybug every night and we played silly games, kissing her on different parts of her head, tickling her face with a stuffed animal so she could at least go after it with her mouth.

Ladybug and me are praying every day for Kylie. Please find a specialist for Kylie. You will burn up the phone lines calling every vet in town (and the next) to find a vet who specializes in back injuries but it is so well worth it. Our hearts are with you. Beagle kisses from Ladybug to Kylie. And hugs from me to you. Sorry it's taken me so long to respond - holidays and lost my sign in....
 
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