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I need some advice or answers. We have two beagles, one has a square snout, the other a pointy snout. Both are register, pure-bred beagles. But they look completely different, except their coloring, both are tri-colored, but Casie is more tan than brown. Okay, so I said, to a woman, we have two beagles, one is English (square snout) and the other is American (pointed snout)
and she said there is no difference between the two...one must not be a beagle. Now I've looked at pictures, read articles that say completely different, but are the articles wrong or the woman? It doesn't bother me, but this is nuts. Any help out there?

Cathy J
 

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You have two registered beagles. No worries there. Its just that they may not meet the standard set by whatever group you are discussing it with.

I believe the the square vs. pointed nose is a show vs. field beagle attitude.

FYI: English beagles are 16, American beagles are 15/13
 

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If you see that woman again, tell her to stay out of things she has NO IDEA about!
You have 2 beagles, both pure-bred, both are BEAGLES.

I hate it when people need to prove a point and thing they are right.

I would say what I would tell that woman, but this is a family friendly forum!
 

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I'm not used to seeing American beagles because here in Australia we import a lot of English beagles, and the type of beagles we have here reflect this. So I find the beagles on this forum look quite different to what we see here!

Both are still beagles - but there is definitely a difference between the two! Even the standard between American and English beagles (read the AKC standard and then read the English or Australian version!) have differences in them.
 

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Originally Posted By: Chloe's MommyIf you see that woman again, tell her to stay out of things she has NO IDEA about!
Not beagle-related, but we went through the same thing when my twins were very young. We had a lady INSIST that they were identical twins despite the fact that one is a boy and one is a girl. I said, no, one has an innie and one has an outie.

I guess she didn't realize I was speaking about their belly buttons...
 

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I don't know if it means anything but Maggie comes from a line of field beagles and she has a more pointed nose. I would just ignore the woman who told you one isn't a beagle. I was in Petco one day and the Nutro rep asked me what kind of dog Maggie is. I thought she was joking but when I looked at her, I could see it was a serious question. She seemed surprised when I said a beagle. There is no way you could mistake Maggie for anything but a beagle. A man shopping with his granddaughter stopped me later in the store and said he wouldn't buy dog food from someone who couldn't recognize a beagle. He said his granddaughter was 3 and as soon as she saw Maggie she said look at the beagle dog. I just laugh about it.
 

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Originally Posted By: jassyMaggie comes from a line of field beagles and she has a more pointed nose.
Winston too!
But my sister was convinced his ears were way to small...so I informed her she doesn't know her beagle from her basset.
 

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I guess mine must not be beagles either, then? Chloe has a much more pointy nose than some of the others, but she is a TINY little girl from field lines - while Lottie is definitely square - Lottie's parents are both show champions. Joe is more pointy, Jack is more square - both are registered LITTERMATES - and I know for a fact (I was there when they were created), that they have the same dad. Romeo was definitely more square - Tanna is a little more pointy - Bella is a combination of her parents - not as square as Lottie, or as pointy as Tanna. Would she like to see THEIR papers? Angel is a combination - of her parents, too (JoJo and Tanna). I have 5 generation research pedigrees on most of mine. She should mind her own business.
 

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Hehe, this thread just made me remember some of the comments i've had over the years.........I was out with our Beagles one day and there was a group of people walking towards us oohing and aahing at the dogs and one of them, a tweedy old gentleman announced very loudly Ah yes, Foxhounds, well done! Another woman felt the need to stop me and question me at length about what type of Beagles mine were (??!) she then informed me that they were Harriers! (okay luv, if you say so!) I also get alot of Aww, look at the cute Bassets (have they ever actually SEEN a Basset Hound??!)
Anyway, I wouldn't worry about it too much, some people just can't help themselves, they think they know it all because they once had a friend who had a sister who used to have a Beagle.....and they usually end up showing their ignorance! I have a friend with a Beagle from a working pack.......she has more of a pointy nose, longer legs and shorter ears, but she's still a Beagle and a very beautiful one at that, she may not do well in the show-ring but i'm pretty sure she could show my lot a thing or two in the field!
 

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Originally Posted By: Joe BeaglesYou have two registered beagles. No worries there. Its just that they may not meet the standard set by whatever group you are discussing it with.

I believe the the square vs. pointed nose is a show vs. field beagle attitude.

FYI: English beagles are 16, American beagles are 15/13
Are English line bred beagles very common in America? I find a bit of a difference in show English lines vs American show lines too.

An American show beagle:


An Aussie/English style show beagle:


It's hard to see with the different angles, but the English style beagle has quite a different muzzle shape and is a little bit rounder than the American beagle. Of course, American Field beagles are very different again.

Size is another big factor. American beagles tend to be a bit finer in bone and structure and as you said, aren't as tall:


And an aussie beagle (both pics are of bitches)
 

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I've also noticed that, broadly speaking, both the Australian and British beagles here on BeagleWorld do look a bit different than the North American ones... it is hard to put my finger on exactly what it is but I can usually make the correct call just from looking at pictures. But then all of the beagles here are also so unique as well - even our own pack has such a great variation - because beagles are like snowflakes!!
 

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ugh I hate when people do this I wrote almost the same type of posts a couple monthes ago when a guy came into MY house and argued with me over if max was a beagle or not ugh. Alot of beagle look different thats all. My max is more a field beagle, lean body longer nose and a bit taller, while alot of show beagle seem a little more stout and with squarish noses. (Ive had people tell me his a foxhound nope way way to short)

Just ignore people I love how the think they know all even if they've never even owned/researched a particular breed.
 

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I'll keep it short and sweet...just like people, Beagles come in all different shapes and sizes. Tell that lady to go to a Beagle meet up some time and she'll see for herself.


Originally Posted By: BookerMoosebecause beagles are like snowflakes!!
Love that!
 

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Beagles are not the only breed that have these kind of differences. Field Labs tend to have pointy noses, while show have square. I am sure these type of comparisons could be listed all day long! In the U.S. anyway, I have always been told that of beagles - more pointy nose for field, square for show ring.

Some people, though! They can just drive ya crazy!!
 

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I loved the answers you gave me, thanks so much. As you know I don't care if they have papers or not, are show quality or not, I just love 'em to pieces. And to tell the truth, pointy or square, it doesn't matter either. They are beagles, and that's all that is truly important to me. Thanks for making my day....
oh, and Eleanor, I will tell her what I think of her ideas on beagles. :O)

Cathy
Mom to Cobi (pointy beagle) and Casie (square beagle)
 

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Originally Posted By: Toby & LuckyBeagles are not the only breed that have these kind of differences. Field Labs tend to have pointy noses, while show have square. I am sure these type of comparisons could be listed all day long! In the U.S. anyway, I have always been told that of beagles - more pointy nose for field, square for show ring.

Some people, though! They can just drive ya crazy!!
Yeah there are a few breeds like this - Siberian Huskies are another. Working dogs are a taller, slimmer and ganglier compared to the show dogs, but I know a lot of show dogs who still sled for fun!
 

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Originally Posted By: Toby & LuckyBeagles are not the only breed that have these kind of differences. Field Labs tend to have pointy noses, while show have square.
It's funny, I have both types of beagles and nobody has ever questioned that they were beagles but I get comments on the lab all the time! Blaze and Buster (in my avatar) both have the field look. Boomer has the more traditional block head.

BJ is a conformation-bred lab. He has the boxier head and is 24 at the shoulder. I have been told that he can't be all lab because he is too small. Actually he is 1/2 under the AKC max, he just isn't a giant like a lot of the field labs out there - lol!

Here's a recent pic of everybody including our friend Max the GSD.
 
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