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I am so mad right now I could spit nail!
Georgia was up on Matthew's bed ( my son ) & she was digging as to make a nest My son was all happy cause she never sleeps with him & what does she do pees!!!!!!

sorry but I smacked her bottom not hard but enought to make her stop & said BAD DOG! now she is outside on her run
this is driving me crazy some days she does good & others like today GRRRRRRRRRRR what can I do she goes out every 4 hours please help
 

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That sounds like she's marking her territory. Jersey did that a couple of times. Georgia is just trying to find her place in her new pack.
 

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she has been with us for almost 3 months now
she is 4 years old
I take her out every 4 hours & prais her to the heaves every time she goes pee or poop.
& than she gets a cookie when we get home she know the routine so what gives I need this to stop or she will have to go back to the breeder we got her from hubbie is not as understanding as I am I love her to death but this will not be allowed
 

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Rite now I cannot type much (more about this in another post) and besides, Shasta does this still too *but it is my fault and it is very rare) and she has been with me going on 3 years - 3 months is not long at all - especially to a dog. Part of it is she is marking her territory and yes, she does need to learn her place in your pack - what is and is not acceptable - putting her outside immediately when it happens is good - not sure about putting her in her crate - hopefully others can help more.
 

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We had one that did the same thing. She came to us in January. She was never housebroke so some of her accidents were understandable, but I wasn't happy the day I discovered she just peed through all the bedclothes on the master bed. I didn't catch her doing it though (just know she was in there) so I couldn't say or do anything, but I am careful about keeping the doors shut more now than I use to. She has only done it once and I believe too that she was trying to mark her territory so I am letting it slide. Bedclothes can be laundered. It wasn't that big of a deal, just a little frustrating and inconvenient. Give Georgia some more time. Some day you will look back and hardly remember these little things.
 

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For me this would have a simple solution: keep her out of the bedrooms at all times and definitely not allow her on the beds.

I have never had a dog pee on my bed. She could be trying to figure out where she fits in and testing you.

I would have her tethered (leashed) to me at all times, when she can't be tethered/leashed she is crated. She obviously cannot be trusted yet. She has also only been with you for 3 months. I can also tell you that that behavior would not be tolerated in my house either by my husband.

Where did she come from? Was she ever in a house before?
 

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First of all I'd give yourself some time/space to calm down.

Don't put human emotions on the dog and think that she is doing this to intentionally upset you or to enact 'revenge' or she's being spiteful. She's not doing this to upset you - that's the human interpretation. She doesn't have a clue her actions are going to cause you to have the reaction you did.

Next time you feel so angry you want to hit your dog - take a deep breath and walk out of the room, because smacking her for toileting in the wrong place is only going to teach her that she is punished for toileting in front of you - not that WHERE she is toileting is wrong.

Teaching the dog to go to the toilet outside is one thing, teaching them to tell us (i.e. sit at the back door) when they need to go outside to toilet is another thing.

Going out every four hours is obviously not enough for her so I'd be going back to basics and taking her out every hour on the hour where possible as well as taking her out after she's played, woken up and eating/drunk something. You might also want to google how to teach your dog to ring a bell, the basic idea is that you hang a bell to your door and teach the dog to ring it when they want to go to the toilet or go outside.
 

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Originally Posted By: TwoLuFor me this would have a simple solution: keep her out of the bedrooms at all times and definitely not allow her on the beds.

I have never had a dog pee on my bed. She could be trying to figure out where she fits in and testing you.

I would have her tethered (leashed) to me at all times, when she can't be tethered/leashed she is crated. She obviously cannot be trusted yet. She has also only been with you for 3 months. I can also tell you that that behavior would not be tolerated in my house either by my husband.

Where did she come from? Was she ever in a house before?
i think georgia wasn't a rescue, i think she's a retired show dog.
 

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I got Daisy as a rescued stray - she was about 1 year old. The rescue said she was housebroken. Hmmm...maybe in <span style="font-weight: bold">their</span> house. She had accidents. And, she peed on my bed. This was definitely territory marking. She always went in the same spot, right where I sleep, more than once.. Claiming me as hers I think.

I was shocked and furious. I've NEVER had a dog that peed on MY BED!!! Since she went in the same spot, if I wasn't in the bed, I laid a 2'x 3' piece of heavy plastic on the spot, then put a folded blanket on top of that. At least if she snuck in there and did it again, it would only be on the folded blanket.

And I did do something that you're not supposed to do...I held her down on the bed firmly but not meanly, with her nose near it and said <span style="font-weight: bold">NO!!! NO!!!! </span> I'm not certain if that helped, but if I recall, she peed there only one more time, ( and received the same treatment by me), then never again.

The watching/tethering/crating is a good idea. Sorry you are going through this - it's really maddening.
 

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well,
my vote is you did the right thing. A NATURAL reaction is just that, Natural, when you are obviously upset about an event the dog gets that. I inadvertantly shamed bonnie once and she has NEVER peed on the bed again, i posted it in another thread...
but my thought is that Georgia may have been a dog that was kept so long in a crate she had to pee in there and it just got to be a habit?
if you are outside with her praising her everytime she goes poddy,
getting mad at her when she goes poddy in front of you in the house is NOT going to send a mixed message in my opinion.
catching her in the very act was KEY. and makeing her uncomfortable in the act was also KEY. the more uncomfortable she gets IN the act the LESS likely to repeat.
doing things After the fact i couldnt tell you.
i think it is alway wise to take them outside, especially if they are used to going potty in one general area, and i ALWAYS use the same phrase Good potty! (name the dog) Good good Potty! even now that they are over a year old, if i ever see them going outside i make a deal out of it.
and guess what, if i need to hurry somewhere and want them togo quickly, i put them out on the potty spot and say Good potty (name the dog) and 75% of the time they Go!!!! but not sure how that helps.

just know it can be corrected. i think you did ok. and dont hesitate to make your dog Uncomfortable when it is doing something forbidden.

oh, another thing, Champ peed on our bed last week. they alway sleep with us. he got up and went to the door, wife got up and let him out to the living room/ kitchen thinking he was thirsty, since he never wakes us up to go potty, and he had been chewing a raw hide when we went to sleep. so he comes back in and lays down on My wife, then about 15 minutes later gets up and comes and sits right next to her head with his head hung low. she says
hey, what the matter, then realizes she is getting warm and wet.
he knew he had done wrong. I think he actually did it in his sleep. (sounds stupid i know, but if youd see him, you might agree) so she picked him up and took him outside, saying Bad Dog, now you go potty out here.
he did.
she cleaned up, clean bedding etc. hasnt happened again.
C.
 

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Originally Posted By: DaisyTheDevilDog
And I did do something that you're not supposed to do...I held her down on the bed firmly but not meanly, with her nose near it and said <span style="font-weight: bold">NO!!! NO!!!! </span> I'm not certain if that helped, but if I recall, she peed there only one more time, ( and received the same treatment by me), then never again.
I would suggest that it had little effect on her understanding of where and when to toilet - do you think the dog sees your bed as anywhere that different to the floor? She didn't toilet their to intentionally upset you, that's a human thought process not a dog's.

IMO the old Rubbing a dog's nose in it is an old wives tale and nothing more.

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my vote is you did the right thing. A NATURAL reaction is just that, Natural, when you are obviously upset about an event the dog gets that.
Do you think it's natural to hit or kick a dog? Not saying that is what the OP did, but you could easily transfer what you've said above to someone who kicks a dog out of anger etc. The dogs may get that you're angry but they aren't human and don't understand our thought processes, they don't get WHY we're upset.

Anger has no place in dog training IMO.

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getting mad at her when she goes poddy in front of you in the house is NOT going to send a mixed message in my opinion.
You're right - it's going to send her a very clear message not to toilet in front of you. This when we start hearing about dogs who are sneaky and know what they're doing wrong by toileting out of sight. No - they don't know that toileting in the house is wrong, we've just taught them that doing so in front of us is going to end in punishment.
 

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Originally Posted By: TwoLuFor me this would have a simple solution: keep her out of the bedrooms at all times and definitely not allow her on the beds.

Our JoJo was allowed semi-free roam of the house when we first adopted her in late January. She had many accidents, and used our kids rooms - mostly my daughter's - as her potty places. She pooed on countless toys...upset my daughter to no end.

She's no longer allowed in their rooms, and if we're going upstairs, she knows she goes right up and gets into her crate, which we call her room. She loves her crate -- it's funny to see her in it, rolling around and having fun. Downstairs she can go where she wants, as long as someone is able to see her (she's been biting the cat lately and being sneaky eating the rug by the front door). She wasn't trained prior to us adopting her and brought a ton of emotional baggage with her.
But she learned what to do by us being consistant with her. And it's still something we work on everyday. (she's 100% potty trained in the house)

Be consistant and set boundaries for her. She'll get it!
 

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Both Lucky and Toby are retired show dogs and I don't know if it has anything to do with it, but it has taken Lucky about a year to really be trusted in the house. I can't remember with Toby, but I know it was a while. Toby would pee on the sofa or bed when he was upset about something like not getting to go with us.

It takes time. They definitely do things that will drive you crazy! Just know that they do get it...eventually.
 

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Sadie did that one time and one time only. I didn't punish her. I think she was extra, extra tired. The blanket could have had a scent on it that caused her to pee. You never know. I wouldn't give up on her sleeping in the bed though. I always try to think of a health reason or other reason that things like this happen.
 

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Buffy (Toby & Lucky's mama) said
Quote:It takes time. They definitely do things that will drive you crazy! Just know that they do get it...eventually.
This is really the best way to put it. I have experienced first hand the anger/frustration you must have felt - one time within maybe a half hour after putting clean bedding on - I mean sheets, pillow covers and bedspread, I called the Beaglebratz up to bed - as I have done many times before. I am not sure what or when it happened but I do know that we did NOT sleep in bed that night as Shasta B. pee'd on my nice clean, fresh bedding - up towards my pillow. Not sure why she did it - has not happened since.

Please give Georgia more time to adjust - 3 months is our time - not theirs. And since she is 4 y.o., she may already have some bad habits that need breaking. If you do let her in bed again sometime, make sure she has not had much if anything to drink for at least an hour or two before and she has had a chance to go potty outside right before bedtime.
 

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One time I had just taken my comforter to the dry cleaners, brought it home and the second I put it on the bed, Duke peed on it. It was the only time he ever did that. I told him no, he has to potty outside and took him outside to make the message more clear. He's never done it since and I think he only did because he wanted the bed to smell like him again (which was the purpose of taking it to be dry cleaned in the first place. LOL).

Like Smeagle says, dogs don't understand human emotions. And they sometimes take time to get it and sometimes some dogs never do. It's all part and parcel of being a dog owner. And we went to hell and back with Duke many times when he was a pup. But you know what, it was all worth it. With Violet, we were very lucky that our little pound puppy was so well trained when we got her. But patience is key. Also, beagles respond much better to positive reinforcement than they do to negative.
 

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Originally Posted By: ZookeeperOne time I had just taken my comforter to the dry cleaners, brought it home and the second I put it on the bed, Duke peed on it. It was the only time he ever did that. I told him no, he has to potty outside and took him outside to make the message more clear. He's never done it since and I think he only did because he wanted the bed to smell like him again (which was the purpose of taking it to be dry cleaned in the first place. LOL).
Please realize there is more to P-mail and the dispensing of Beagle_magic-marking-fluid than just a need to go. I doubt Duke was so vain as to want it to smell like him but to him, it sure didn't smell correct, just wasn't proper! The Bagel has never felt the need to water inside my house but we once spent the night in a sleazy motel in Colorado and the room we got didn't smell right to me, the Bagel examined (sniffed) and to my horror started to lift his leg. Fortunately, a Bagel No! was sufficient to cause markus interuptus but I'm sure the previous resident had left a message and the Bagel felt compelled to respond. They do smell thousands of times better than us humans, they know when something ain't correct. I agree with Duke, Dry Cleaner Indeed!
 

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try not to ever strike your Beagle! They are very smart animals and have a stubborn streak, using physical punishment can irreparably damage your relationship with your Beagle! Beagles are known to pee where they sleep (it is a marking issue), this is normal behavior, it can be stopped but with patience and training (sometimes it is training the owner not the dog).. it isn't a personal issue for the dog, it is instinct.. there are some really great books on Beagles out there, read up on the breed, they've got some quirks but they are by far the BEST dogs ever
 
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