[Toby & Lucky]

Lucky was a tough cookie, too. One thing I realized with him was that I had to monitor when he could have water. He will drink till it's gone and within 30 minutes he would (and still will if I let it happen) pee in the house. I can't have a water out all the time anymore. I give Lucky water at certain times of day and I watch (or listen) to how long he drinks. If it is a lot, I know to take him out in 15-20 minutes.

I think I have heard somewhere, too, that having scheduled water creates a pee schedule. It makes sense, I guess!

On the poop. One, Lucky gets bulge-y in that area when he needs to go. I've learned to watch for it! Two, his poop accidents were usually the same time of day - morning or late evening. Especially late in the evening. I had to walk him a lot in the evenings before he finally got it on schedule!

You are not alone. I remember being so frustrated and actually posting that Lucky had to be dumber than a box of rocks! He is much more subtle at telling me he needs to go out. Toby gets in my face and whines. Lucky just quietly comes and sits next to me, usually putting his face on my knee.

 

[Toby & Lucky]

One other thing. I have to walk Lucky by himself to get him to do his business. Lucky is easily distracted and that = accidents every time from him!

 

[Toby & Lucky]

I forgot ask, are you crate training?

 

[Toby & Lucky]

You might try a crate. She may not love it at first, but she may not be willing to pee/poop in it and that will help you. Then, you take them directly outside everytime you take them out of the crate. They learn that they have to go potty before they get to play.

Feeding them in the crate teaches them it is a good place, helping them not to hate it. Toby actually loves his crate, Lucky, he tolerates it!!