[teriwoolard]

So there was an incident that really ticked me off at the dog park this wkend, please tell me if I handled it ok or totally overreacted. Sorry ahead of time it's really long.

I went to the dog park like I do most sundays with Max, my friend and her husky/shepard mix. We got there and I was excited to see 4 other beagles. Well we got into the park and saw one male intact beagle chasing a tiny dog and humping it into the corner, no owners stepped in nothing ok whatever not my dog. So we continue walking to the middle of the park and I look over and see a beagle humping another beagle and the one on the bottem freaking out and trying to get away. I look closer and realize it's poor max on the bottem so I rush over yelling for max to come, Max is trying to come to me but this other male dog keeps rushing and humping him. I rush over to grab max and a lady was standing there watching saying oh im glad your dog is humping to now i dont feel so embrassed my horny dog is the one humping that dog in the corner he's in heat (she also had a female beagle that was in heat) HELLO it says right on the rules posted on the entrance NO DOGS ALLOWED IN THAT ARE IN HEAT!!!

I looked at her and said no excuse me my dogs on the bottem and it's not funny. so I gently pull the other beagle of max (by the beagles collar) and max tries to go play w/my friends dog, well this other beagle just keeps repeatedly goes over and humps max I removed him @10 times then i finally got fed up and picked up max and moved him to a diff spot. No such luck this dog follows and continues to mount him, we end up back in the middle by where all the people are sitting and he's still doing it. The owners were sitting right there watching and LAUGHING. I finally picked Max and asked my friend if we could please leave and go on a walk instead I was shaking and very visibly ticked off. I said right in front of the owners "let's go and come back later it's ridiculus that no one will control there dog, this is pathetic that they arent doing anything people shouldnt bring pets to the park and not watch there dog" and marched away carrying max the entire time while this humping dog followed us and jumped at max the entire way out. We went on a good 30 min walk and brought them back to the park since the other beagles were gone and they ran around and played with all the other dogs and had a fine time.

I don't know if I handled it the right way or not but I was beyond mad that the owners just sat there, and about the lady blantently ignoring the rules of the park and bringing her intact dogs there. It was disapointed experiance i was so excited there was other beagles there and then this happened. I know other dogs will hump but when something like this happens @ 20 times and im obviously trying to remove the dog the owners could have done something.

What would have you guys done?

 

[angelaH]

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I would have told them what I thought and then have left.

 

[Toby & Lucky]

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It doesn't bother me if a dog is in tact, it will only do what its owner's will let it do. Toby is neutered, but sometimes will start to hump and won't stop at the dog park. Even fixed dogs do that trying to prove dominance. When he gets that way (about 1 of every 6 trips or so) we pack up and go. It's not everyone elses problem - it's my problem, so I remove the problem.
Yes, you should say something to the owners. Something along the line of "would you kindly make your dog stop humping my dog." If they don't, you really have no choice but to pack up and go. They are kinda like people who bring their lunch to the dog park and then wonder why all the dogs won't leave them alone! Some people are just rude!!!

Hope your next trip is better!!

 

[teriwoolard]

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I don't mind intact dogs being there that is there owners choice and not mine although I do choose to fix my animals. I do disagree with people bringing dogs that are in heat, which this lady admitted both of her beagles were in heat. It is obvouisly againest the rules stated on the door.

The humping I totally agree that some dogs do it for dominance Max has done it once when we were at teh park and I intervened and redirected if he would have continued we would have left. I was just extremly frustrated that I was saying stuff and obviously trying to stop it by moving my dog (and eventually moving their dog away from max) and they sat there and laughed about it. There always seems to be one owner there that doesnt control their dog. Last time we were there there was a yippee terrier that kept biting at every dog (would chase the dogs not leaving them alone and nip at them the entire time) the owner didn't do anything but laugh and numerous people packed up and left after only having the dogs there for a few minutes.

I just dont realize why owners dont follow the rules and ruin it for other people it makes me sad. Yes dogs go there to run and bark and play but owners should still watch them to make sure they are undercontrol to a certain extent

 

[Smeagle]

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One dog humping another dog for dominance is rude and behaviour that should not be accepted by its owner.

There is nothing funny about it. God people like that ignorant woman really make me mad!!!!

And I bet if your Max turned around and snapped at the bugger humping him, she would have gone nuts. I have a male dog who will not let other dogs hump him, and will snap at them if they do... and fair enough too!

I would have said something to the lady along the lines of "Being in the dog park requires you to have effect control over your dog, can you please stop him humping other dogs!"

Her female dog being in heat has nothing to do with it, the dog isn't "horny" its a dominating bully. If she had ignored my request I would have told her its not funny and her dog is a rude, dominating bully. I would have told her that she needs to leash her dog if she can't control his bad behaviour.

Grrrr I feel your anger!! I can't stand irresponsible owners.

 

[sandals]

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I would have been more matter of fact to them to be honest. I am very protective of my girl...Good for you Teri!

 

[weed30]

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WOW - you are a LOT nicer than I would have been. The dog park I go to also has "ALL DOGS MUST BE NEUTERED OR SPAYED" signs at each entrance. I went there one day and some idiot on the big dog side had an intact shepherd mix over there. I asked who the owner was, and nobody seemed to know. I started walking over to another group of people to ask, and a dog fight broke out. 4 dogs getting into it because of the intact dog. It was scary!!! The owners all ran over to try and break it up. When I figured out who the intact dog owner was, I said 'That is exactly why you can't bring an intact dog into this park. Read the signs!'

Normally I am NOT a confrontational person, but when it comes to something like that, where injuries and possibly death to a dog could happen, I get MAD. /forums/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/th_scared.gif You did good by saying something, but next time you should just tell them to leave. A simple "intact dogs aren't allowed in the park" will do. And I can't believe nobody else stepped up to say anything! Surely they were as mad as you were, even if it wasn't their dog getting humped.

 

[valariereiser]

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I also think you were a lot nicer than I would have been. Not that I would have been completely rude, but I know that if Maggie was in heat I would never even consider taking her outside of our yard. I think that people need to be responsible for their dogs just like they would their children and not just let them run around all crazy just because its a dog park. I think that there should be rules and boundaries there also and I think you did the right thing by leaving.

 

[teriwoolard]

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i should clarify the dog that was humping max wasn't intact so I know that was a dominance thing. He even followed me to the gate trying to get at max who I was carrying grrrr. The woman that had the intact/in heat dog had a female and male beagle the female was just waddling around on her own it was her male that was being aggressive and humping the king spaniel in the corner of the park (she was the one that said oh good your dog is humping to now im not so embrassed um yeah lady not my dog i wouldnt let him do that). They left right after I took max out probably cuz of what I said I did say quite a few choice things, i dont remember exactly what I was literaly so mad I was shaking.

Here's the rules of our park:

Park Hours: Open 5 am –11 pm

Use the Dog Park at your own risk. Owners are legally responsible for their dogs and any injuries caused by them.

Dogs are allowed off leash in dog park areas only. Owners must carry a leash at all times. Dogs should be leashed before entering and prior to leaving the dog park.

Dogs must wear a collar, carry ID tags, be properly licensed and vaccinated, be parasite free and in healthy condition.

Owners must remain in the dog park with their dogs at all times.

Dogs must be leashed when maintenance crews are working in the dog park.

No children under the age of 12 allowed in the dog park without adult supervision

Owners must pick up and dispose of dog feces.

Female dogs in heat and dogs less than four months of age are prohibited from entering the dog park.

Dogs must be removed from the dog park at the first sign of aggression or excessive barking.

Violators of these rules will be subject to removal from the dog park and suspension of dog park privileges.

All users need to abide by City Codes. Greenway and Park Rules apply to this site.

so it doesnt say anything about being in heat (which doesnt even apply max anyways) but come on common sense specially when i owner is visibly upset.

 

[weed30]

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Originally Posted By: Teri
so it doesnt say anything about being in heat (which doesnt even apply max anyways) but come on common sense specially when i owner is visibly upset.

I think you meant it doesn't say anything about humping, because it does say something about being in heat.

<span style="color: #CC0000">"Female dogs in heat</span> and dogs less than four months of age are prohibited from entering the dog park."

And, humping falls under this rule:

"Dogs must be removed from the dog park at the first sign of aggression or excessive barking. "

Humping is aggression!

 

[teriwoolard]

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Originally Posted By: DaisyTheDevilDog

Originally Posted By: Teri
so it doesnt say anything about being in heat (which doesnt even apply max anyways) but come on common sense specially when i owner is visibly upset.

I think you meant it doesn't say anything about humping, because it does say something about being in heat.

<span style="color: #CC0000">"Female dogs in heat</span> and dogs less than four months of age are prohibited from entering the dog park."

And, humping falls under this rule:

"Dogs must be removed from the dog park at the first sign of aggression or excessive barking. "

Humping is aggression!

Yes your right I meant to say it doesn't say anything about humping, it does say something about being in heat and not being allowed in. I'm still mad just talking about it so had alot of spelling errors. It just makes me sad I love the dog park and so does max but then other owners ruin it. Owners don't use common sense at all, a see owners with dogs there w/muzzles growling, or people bring their dogs and sit outside and watch (since their dog is to agressive to come in) I think that is just plain mean to do to your dog kind of like taunting " hey look at all these dogs playing oh to bad you can't)....like sunday when we were there the second time an owner was standing outside the fence w/his dog on leash watching all the dogs in the dog park while there dog sat on the leash growling for a good 25 minutes WHY DO PEOPLE NOT THINK!!

 

[Smeagle]

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Personally, intact male dogs at the park don't bother me if the owners are responsible and the dogs are well behaved. Of course, many aren't, but if I see someone at the park with an intact male dog behaving himself I don't care. There are many aggressive or dominant dogs that like the OP's case aren't desexed.

Bitches in heat IMO should not be at a dog park.

 

[Jennifer]

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Intact or not, male or female, big or small, makes no difference to me...if any dog is causing a nuisance to me or my dogs and is not being controlled its owner gets an ear bashing from me

I'm not rude, aggressive or generally confrontational but I do not allow other peoples bad manners to spoil my life.

Letting your dog hump another dog and just sitting there laughing about it is totally unacceptable behaviour and I would not have let it carry on for as long as you did.

I'm the same with peoples children. If the brats are annoying me and the parents do nothing about it I make my thoughts and feelings known.

 

[Mom of 2 Beagles]

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How rude and stupid of that other woman with the humping dog. I would have done the exact same thing. You did right. I wonder if you could report that woman to the park. Maybe describe her and her Beagle to them. Maybe they could be banned from ever returning. And bringing a female dog in heat into the park was extremely stupid. Her dog could get pregnant and also she probably caused other dogs to act out because they were reacting to her being in heat.

 

[Murphys Dad]

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You did the right thing, except for not telling them off! Friggin' idiots.

I would notify the park staff & officials with a written letter. Its funny how serious it gets when the complaint is on paper.

 

[Drewmangroup]

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Yeah we were at the park one time and a dog started humping scout. And I was the one that had to step in and stop it. I saw the dog humping another dog and the owner said " (humping dog) you are going to get bit". I guess some people are just hands off at the dog park. They figure the dogs can work it out themselves, which sometimes is true, but when a dog is repeatedly going after another dog and the owner is upset about it, the other owner needs to take some responsibility.

 

[Pack Leader]

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Yeah, you were a lot nicer than I would have been. Now, I'm an animal lover, but if I feel like my dog is in distress (whether being excessively humped or if he was ever in a fight) I think I would act quite more agressively to protect Henry. The same thing happened to me at a dog park right after I adopted Henry. Some guy was just letting his Lab hump the hell out of Henry, and when I tried to separate them, the Lab growled at me. Meanwhile the guy is laughing. So I waded in, kicked that dog in the rear (he yelped and scampered away), and then proceeded to cuss the guy when he called me on it. The NICEST THING I said to him was "If you're too ignorant to teach your dog any manners then I'm gonna take care of the situation. It's not funny and it's not cute." I was SO angry. Luckily some nice folks at the park backed me up and the guy left. I felt really awful about kicking the dog, but I felt I had run out of options. I wasn't about to get bitten, and I wasn't about to let Henry get bummed out about the whole experience. I had literally had him for 3 days, and he was looking at me like "Save me!". It definitely wasn't play. Anyways...he still loves other dogs and the park, lol.

 

[brandyb]

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Dogs are like people, unfortunately some have bad manners. And it's clear that this dog learned it's bad manners from it's owner. I probably would have done the same thing, don't feel bad. Hopefully this rude person got the hint.

 

[Rhomylly]

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I agree. Let the authorities know.

 

[teriwoolard]

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thanks I feel like my feelings were justified hearing from everyone else, i wasnt sure if i was overreacting or not and I see from your responses I def wasn't. I will be complaining to the park board about the incident the crappy thing is that there is never any "authorities" at the dog park so it's kind of police your own type of thing (ie they say if you dont feel comfortable with what is happening there leave oh gee thanks huh?)

This whole thing happened under 5 minutes I mean this dog was on max pretty much right when we got there. So from the time we had gotten in the park to when we left to walk them it was 5 minutes maybe. At least the park is by a river so I just brought max out and let him sniff and explore down there on his retractable leash.