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I agree with the logic that shouting has the dog thinking you are barking - barking means play or alert to Tramp, and that means he's wound up. Things still sometimes led to yelling here though, as Tramp seems to have wanted Alpha position over hubby & 6 yr old and they wanted no part of it! :biglaugh: Hubby started intentionally changing his voice to be higher for praising and leaving deeper but short & firm for scolding (whereas children have try to go deeper for scolding), they both started cuddling with him more when Tramp was behaving, and gave him the treats more often (hubby gone all day). Things have been much better between all of them!
 
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