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Old 06-04-2019, 06:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Angry 3 Beagles Messing In House Constantly! HELP PLEASE

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My husband and I brought out first female beagle in to our family over 5 years ago and she is absolutely perfect! Although we had a tough first few months, we cracked everything including re-call and toilet training.
After a year we brought in a second male beagle from a pup which unfortunately, I cannot say the same thing about at all. Re-call ect. fine but toileting is a BIG NO! I've tried everything.
A year or so after again we brought a third rescue beagle in to the family (I couldn't not after knowing he was going to get put down in a pound) and toilet training became a MASSIVE thing, to ensure this was rectified and put straight immediately. I managed to get him toileting outside on command, rewarded with treats each time. This is still in place today.
However, there remains a MASSIVE issue that I request urgent urgent urgent help and advice with. Whenever we leave the house, whether it be for 10 minutes to 3 hours we come home to wee and poo every single time, sometimes we come back to 4/5/6 patches of wee! from such a short amount of time, it is absolutely crazy.
My husband and I are primarily at home and are more in and out than anything else. We only leave the house for short periods of time, a couple times a day. They have large open spaces that they can use throughout the day.
Another issue we've started to experience more recently is that even when the back door is wide open and completely accessible in to the back garden, there is still wee AND poo in the house!
One of the main issues is that I don't know who it is! Out of the 2 boys, it could be both of them or one of them, I have no clue.
A camera is clearly an option but even once I have identified who it is I still don't know the next steps.
I have no clue how to rectify this when I am not around but I really need to as I cannot live with it for much longer. I really have tried.
PLEASE HELP.
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Old 06-04-2019, 07:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It sounds like one of the 3 needs potty training 101, just as if they are a puppy brought to the home for the first time. Be sure to clean all the mess spots with cleaner meant for accidents. You could have one dog that has separation anxiety. I had a greyhound that would pee if I just walked out to the mail box. Even with 3 dogs, one or more can still have separation anxiety.

When I rescued Molly, I think she was from a puppy mill originally and no matter how hard I tried to get her to go outside to wee, she would come right in and wee in the house. I started the potty training over again and she finally got it.

Routine is important to beagles with SA. Always come and go in a calm manner, saying the same thing when you leave. I say "see ya at 11" everytime, even if I am coming home at 3. I give each dog a treat and calmly go out the door. You can also limit the access they have to the house. I use baby gates to limit them to the kitchen, bathroom and bedroom only.

https://www.aspca.org/pet-care/dog-c...ration-anxiety

P.S. Thank you for rescuing!
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Old 06-04-2019, 07:29 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Wow I can hear your frustration.. and I don't blame you. I'll throw out a few suggestions for starters. I have one dog that is now 7.5 yrs. Ive had her from 8 wks so I have no experience with more than one, which frankly is plenty for me.
You havent said how recently you've added each dog but that could be the cause and they're stressed. First get a crate for each dog if you dont have them. Crate them every time you go out and at night. That should help .. its like training a puppy. Keep their free space in your house very restricted with baby gates or pens until you get this under control. Clean with a product like Miracle to eliminate any leftover smell.
Get a clicker for training and click every time they pee/poop outside. I TELL my dog what to do when I send her outside...."go pee/pee" ( i say that for both)...then click the clicker when one does the biz.
Finally, your stress may stress the dogs so have a nice glass of wine.
Hope this helps, others may have better suggestions. We're here for you.
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Old 06-04-2019, 07:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I was going to suggest a crate too. Back to potty-training basics. And absolutely enzyme cleaner to get rid of odours sensitive beagle noses can smell!

Dumb question, but have they been to a vet? Any chance of a UTI?
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Vet..good suggestion.
Also get into an obedience class so they start listening and following commands.. refresher course.
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I was going to suggest a crate too. Back to potty-training basics. And absolutely enzyme cleaner to get rid of odours sensitive beagle noses can smell!

Dumb question, but have they been to a vet? Any chance of a UTI?
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Thank you all, I really appreciate your help and support - I've never been part of any kind of forum before and your comments have been super helpful.

In regards to the crate, I had Bruno (2nd baby in to the family) crated at first, but he used to mess in the crate!? I was always under the impression that this would not happen due to them not messing in there home. Anyway, that aside, I am more than happy to introduce this again to all of them however, would I crate all 3 separately? I have considered this in the past but they all cuddle together when I'm out and I worry about causing more stress with them having to be separate.

They haven't been to the vet as I do not know who it is... I have never considered this as being a problem so thank you for the suggestion however this is not a new thing? it's been ages now

I really struggle with the getting them back to basics with the potty training simply because there's 3 of them! With Bailey (the rescue and most recent addition to the family) I have him cracked with the toileting on demand (although this is only weeing not pooping) however with the other 3, when we go out and I make bailey go.. the other 2 just stare at me and don't understand. I will really try to enforce this with the other 2 separately.

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Glad the suggestions were helpful. Lots of experience on the forum so if you stick with us and ask questions you'll get plenty of advice and some silliness.
Yes, separate crates. Clean any mess with cleaner specifically used for this, nothing with ammonia in it. My dog is "mostly" predictable, especially after or soon after eating... i monitor her signals that a poop or pee is coming...sniffing certain places, and moving like she's going to go...
Give water after eating but not a bucket full all day. pick up water near the end of the day. This is going to take close monitoring for awhile.
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Old 06-05-2019, 06:17 PM   #10 (permalink)
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