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Old 02-07-2013, 02:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OK, Well Class #2 went better than Class #1. I had emailed the trainer. Not sure if she received it, as she didn't respond. I was as polite as possible and asked that I be allowed to correct my dog myself. I told her that yanking Boh on the prong made me very uncomfortable. I asked to be allowed to do things my own way, or to sit and observe, rather than participate.

At any rate, she did not correct Boh a single time and we actually did heel "MY" way. Boh was by far the best behaved and best trained in the class. I have been working with him, since I got him. He did his heel, sit, and stand perfectly. Best of all, I know he has a blast. I had my daughter handle him, so I could observe. Boh was grinning from ear to ear. He was very happy. He is learning to listen with distractions, which is the only reason I put him in class in the first place.

On a sour note, I felt so bad for the airdale terrier. I don't know what her issues are, but she refuses to walk. I don't know if this occurs outside of class. Perhaps it is the feel of the rubber mats in class. She was the same way last week. The trainer had her assistant take control of the dog to try to get her to walk. I could see she was frustrated with the dog - like the dog was making her look bad, because she couldn't make it walk. She was pulling on her to the point the poor dog was choking. The trainer had to bring to her attention that the dog was choking. I was PO'd that Boh had air sprayed at him. God help them, if they had choked my dog. The trainer wrapped the leash under the dog's hind legs and lifted him to get him to walk. That didn't work either. I'm not a trainer, but I try to get Boh to do things by showing him what I want. If he isn't getting it, I try something else. I try to make him WANT to do the command or trick. For the airdale, I just kept thinking TREATS? Really high value yummy TREATS!!! I just wanted to go over to the dog and say, "Can I try?" That poor dog isn't learning a darned thing. I'm going to try to talk to the airdale's owner, before class next week.

So - As long as the trainer leaves Boh and me alone, and Boh is having fun, I guess we will finish the class. Five more weeks.
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Old 02-07-2013, 05:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Sounds like a good plan to me
Maybe if you get a chance to talk to the airdale owner before class you can offer some help. That would be so kind of you!
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I am glad you handled things and everything seems to be working out. The socialization and bonding with Boh is priceless in his growth. I'm with you I am surprised at the attitude and training with your trainer. Dragging the Airdale isn't going to do anything for it except probably frighten it more or cause a reaction towards the trainer. Personally I think the lure method probably would of worked well. I have a beagle just like the Airdale. Pixie spent eight weeks in the corner of the room doing nothing. For her that was a major achievement. The first class she spent shaking but each week she became less and less afraid. I would treat her for anything that she did. Her second (eight week class) class she learned sit pretty and would let the instructor pet her without peeing on the floor(big achievement). I just don't see where dragging a dog achieves anything.
I hope you look around and find a different training facility. I think you would really enjoy agility with Boh.


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Techie, I plan on talking to the Airdale owner next week. She is such a cute dog. I don't like the treatment at all.

My6, Totally agree. This class is worth sticking it out, if Boh is having fun. He is learning to behave with distractions and is loving the other dogs. I have someone helping me find another class. Oddly, there is one we are looking at that is near where I board my horse. There also used to be an agility course in the same area. I think Boh would love agility. To be honest, I have to tell you that I am the world's least coordinated person. I will probably send poor Boh in the wrong direction and fall flat on my face. Did I mention that my family has genetic clumsiness and genetically weak ankles? Yes, Sad, right? LOL!
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You would not be the first person to fall flat on their face while running agility. It just happened to a class member this past Saturday. Luckily she wasn't injured nor was her dog that she tripped over. The handler gave the wrong hand signal to her dog and he just stopped. It happens. If there is a agility competition in your area make plans and go see it with your daughter. You'll have a really good time.


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The purpose of the obedience class is to train the humans so they can practice at home. It's not for making the trainer look good. If that were the case Cassie would have made the trainer go totally bonkers . She does the moves at home at our pace. Sounds like you have a good handle on this. Hey when Cassie did a move right the whole class and the trainers cheered!
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The purpose of the obedience class is to train the humans so they can practice at home. It's not for making the trainer look good. If that were the case Cassie would have made the trainer go totally bonkers . She does the moves at home at our pace. Sounds like you have a good handle on this. Hey when Cassie did a move right the whole class and the trainers cheered!
You are so right. I could tell the assistant who was working with the Airdale was so frustrated with her. She couldn't handle the dog. The dog was making her look bad. Tough cookies. It should have been about helping the dog and owner to make progress. No one expects perfection in an obedience class.
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Cassie did not do the sit, stay, recall when ALL the other dogs did it in class...but she does it now!!
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Cassie did not do the sit, stay, recall when ALL the other dogs did it in class...but she does it now!!
That's all that matters. Hey, some of us are late bloomers. LOL!
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Does the trainer use treats at all? Everyone on this board knows the easiest way to get a dog, (any dog not just a beagle) to do what you want is with a snack. Did the airedale's owner say anything? I wouldn't have tolerated that. I still don't like her.
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